Episode 1: New Hobbies, Thrift Store Tips & Big Podcast Dreams

Written by Katie Sproles

In this first walk-and-talk episode, Katie and Sara set out to record a casual conversation and quickly discover that the format suits them: two friends, microphones in hand, talking through whatever is on their minds. They kick things off by trying to name the podcast, tossing around increasingly ambitious descriptions of themselves, and joking about their future as famous podcasters with sponsorships, promo codes, and a wildly successful social presence.

The conversation moves into the hobbies and goals they want to pursue in the coming months. Katie and Sara talk about getting stronger, possibly training for a fitness competition, learning to swim more confidently, taking tennis lessons, and finding ways to make exercise feel fun rather than like another obligation. They also explore creative outlets, including crochet, painting, pottery, sewing, scrapbooking, and small DIY projects. Both reflect on wanting more hands-on hobbies that help them spend less time on their phones and give their brains a break from work and constant scrolling.

They also share their reading habits, reality-TV opinions, favorite ways to watch shows, and the difference between genuinely relaxing and simply having no plans. From audiobooks at the gym to the joys of rewatching comfort shows, the episode becomes a celebration of low-stakes interests and the small routines that make everyday life feel fuller.

Money and shopping come up often, from thrift-store strategy and fashion inspiration to Target browsing, lingering subscriptions, and an unexpectedly expensive remote-control app. Sara shares a frustrating experience with recurring charges, while both friends joke about the many ways they convince themselves that a purchase is justified. They also talk through holiday travel, winter plans, gift ideas, wedding planning, and how to make future celebrations feel thoughtful without putting too much financial pressure on everyone involved.

By the end, Katie and Sara reflect on what they are proud of lately—whether that means trying creative projects without needing to be perfect, making more time for friends, or pushing themselves to do things that once felt intimidating. They close by deciding the episode was a success and brainstorming how to build an audience, including a thrift-store photo shoot with literal walkers as part of the show’s future promotion.

A warm, unfiltered conversation about friendship, ambition, hobbies, money, creativity, and trying to make everyday life a little more fun.

  • Katie (00:00)

    so we're just gonna be live. So we're live right now.

    Sara (00:01)

    Okay. great.

    Katie (00:05)

    Okay, so welcome. I was thinking the only podcast name I had in mind was staring Katie on a walk.

    Sara (00:13)

    You think that that's good? We should do like two really strong fit girls on a walk that are gonna have like so much luck this year.

    Katie (00:26)

    Okay. Okay manifesting. And are we manifesting for twenty twenty six, do you think? Or do you are you talking about like three hundred sixty five days?

    Sara (00:35)

    I haven't really thought that

    Katie (00:36)

    Right. I like this year, twenty twenty six. We're gonna have a lot by the end of the year.

    Sara (00:41)

    I feel like this year's over.

    Katie (00:43)

    Okay, well pick a lane.

    Sara (00:46)

    Like I can't I can't achieve anything the rest of this year.

    Katie (00:50)

    Okay, so should we like relax this year and then next year's no year?

    Sara (00:52)

    Yeah,

    let's just chill for the next three months. Okay, just chill December. Three months.

    Katie (00:59)

    You know, I okay, I've had a really hard time lately converting numbers to months. Okay, it seemed like seven one and I'm just like you know, the month of seven and then I think it's kind of embarrassing. Have you ever had that happen? Yeah.

    Sara (01:08)

    Okay, so October to be is eighth.

    Katie (01:11)

    I can get behind that actually. Yeah.

    Sara (01:14)

    I also think November is definitely nine.

    Katie (01:17)

    Wow What would

    Sara (01:18)

    No.

    Katie (01:20)

    be what how would we walked into someone we knew? What would be your reaction? Just

    Sara (01:25)

    Hide the mics.

    Katie (01:27)

    eat it? I would probably eat it.

    Okay, so two really strong girls. Take a walk.

    Sara (01:35)

    Yeah, or something that makes us sound really cool.

    Katie (01:39)

    Probably that.

    Sara (01:40)

    Yeah,

    that's probably the best thing I can think of. let's let's think. I feel like we don't have many creative juices because our photo albums are like KT Sarah. Yeah. If they have PJ and Riley then it's KTP R.

    Katie (01:58)

    Yeah, I do love that. I love it when we just mix all of our initials together.

    Sara (02:02)

    Yeah.

    Katie (02:05)

    Well we like to go on walks, we like to go to the gym.

    Sara (02:09)

    Like to go to the gym. to yap.

    Katie (02:11)

    We can say

    two really strong, smart girls.

    Sara (02:18)

    Who are so beautiful. Yeah.

    Katie (02:20)

    Okay. Yeah,

    Sara (02:22)

    Offer so much.

    Katie (02:24)

    yeah, yeah. Yeah.

    Sara (02:26)

    Yeah yeah.

    Katie (02:27)

    so yeah, you didn't have any topics for today is what I heard.

    Sara (02:30)

    Yeah, I didn't. I had a busy day at work today.

    Katie (02:33)

    What happened?

    Sara (02:36)

    just the fact that my life is gonna be a living hell for the next six months. That's about it.

    Katie (02:42)

    Yeah. So just after six months it's gonna come back to normal and be good.

    Sara (02:46)

    No, there's actually no end in sight. But possibly a big bonus, so that would be great.

    Katie (02:53)

    That's gonna be what we're manifesting. Big bonus.

    Sara (02:56)

    Yeah, so big bonus means the bare minimum of my standards, so we'll see what it actually is. Okay.

    Katie (03:04)

    So are we manifesting a new job? Or is that not to disclose at the moment?

    Sara (03:11)

    I mean, if someone wants to pay me a lot of money, I will happily leave my current job.

    Katie (03:18)

    Okay, yeah. My sister was just talking about how her friend wants to be a humble artist that makes three hundred K a year. Do you feel like that is the vibe you're going for?

    Sara (03:25)

    Ooh, see that's that's a little on the low end for me. Okay. I would like to be someone who works a few hours a week and then gets paid four hundred K.

    Katie (03:37)

    That is kind of what I'm looking for.

    Sara (03:39)

    Yeah, so how actually how should we do it?

    Katie (03:43)

    So obviously trying some app designs. the podcast.

    Sara (03:48)

    Right. I'm sure everyone is gonna wanna listen.

    Katie (03:50)

    Yeah, I mean I feel like I was thinking. So I was thinking about all the podcasts that are like two conversationalists that are like females. Mm-hmm. And what I think we're gonna run up playing against is like they're all already famous. And then they start a podcast.

    Sara (04:03)

    Yeah.

    Katie (04:04)

    So that's where I struggle with us.

    Sara (04:06)

    We could start applying for a reality television series.

    Katie (04:11)

    Okay. And it's specific.

    Sara (04:14)

    no, but I feel like that's how everyone gets on the map that becomes a podcaster.

    Katie (04:21)

    I honestly don't know that many like that, but I think that's a way. Yeah.

    Sara (04:25)

    That's like everyone that I can think of. So I think that's our only option.

    Katie (04:30)

    Okay, so maybe we start applying for reality TV. We But something really

    Sara (04:34)

    Yeah.

    Katie (04:35)

    But we should have done Traders like normal the normal people one, where you just apply. Normal

    Sara (04:39)

    There's a normal.

    Katie (04:39)

    people? It's live right now. Like I we might watch it. Maybe it's on our agenda tonight. I

    Sara (04:42)

    Do people okay?

    Katie (04:44)

    think people are watching it.

    Sara (04:46)

    Hmm.

    Katie (04:48)

    So we could have tried do

    Sara (04:51)

    We could do something really crazy that like gets us on the news and then Okay we go viral and then we get a following. And but only one of us has to do that and then the other one could just promote the

    Katie (05:02)

    Yeah,

    if you want to do that. Okay, okay.

    Sara (05:05)

    I'll take one for the team. Okay.

    Katie (05:10)

    Yeah, I feel like lately have you been playing more creative or are you feeling analytical? 'Cause I feel like I'm historically analytical but lately creative. And it's been confusing.

    Sara (05:19)

    I think I've been trying to trigger the creative juices, but then I think of what activities are creative and they're paint by numbers where I'm extremely concerned about staying in the lines and getting the numbers right. So I don't know how creative

    Katie (05:36)

    Mm-hmm.

    Sara (05:36)

    don't know how creative that actually is.

    Katie (05:38)

    yeah, did you what y'all as this is an audio podcast y'all didn't see is she just painted a really cute cup and it looks really good. yeah.

    Sara (05:46)

    Yeah. Ceramics. Yes, I am channeling my creative juices with painting already made ceramics. Okay.

    Katie (05:54)

    Pottery. Are you gonna try to make your own pottery soon or no we're not?

    Sara (05:58)

    That's that's too much. Okay.

    Katie (06:00)

    Okay. I mean that just feel like is cool, but it's like kinda expensive.

    Sara (06:05)

    Yeah. Should we talk about what hobbies you want to get into?

    Katie (06:09)

    Yeah. Okay. I kinda wanna be okay, well I was gonna actually ask you this. Do you feel like we need to start training for a high rocks?

    Sara (06:19)

    Yes. This

    Katie (06:20)

    I can't

    Sara (06:20)

    ones. Is this on your mind because of the poop girl?

    Katie (06:23)

    Kinda 'cause of poop girl but Tasha also did one and I was like I kinda feel like you and I would do well even though I don't run anymore.

    Sara (06:29)

    I do also think it'd be something really fun to train for.

    Katie (06:33)

    Yeah, it seems cool. So I think that maybe that's something so I was getting really embarrassed by walking about people with our microphones. I'm just owning it. so that's one thing. Okay. Sometimes I decided like wanna like train really hard for something, but I tried to do sprints the other day and it was not fun. It hurt.

    Sara (06:52)

    I decided that I want to do an Iron Man, but I don't know how to swim. So

    Katie (06:57)

    Yeah. We can work on swimming.

    Sara (07:01)

    I stay afloat. I don't know how to like actually swim laps in a pool. Also I'm like, how was I never taught that?

    Katie (07:10)

    'cause you are from the north.

    Sara (07:12)

    Yeah, but I went to like summer camp and we did swimming and I don't I have no idea how to freestyle swim.

    Katie (07:18)

    Do you wanna actually swim together? 'Cause I I don't know if you know, but I was a stellar junior swimmer.

    I was a senior d on J V.

    Sara (07:27)

    What I thought you weren't allowed to

    Katie (07:30)

    and swimming swimming is like really like J V swimming like they don't have rules. At least in my school. If you're in Florida, J V swimming like a joke. Like if you're on varsity, there's rules. But if you're on J V you just swim for fun. It's just a hobby. Yeah,

    Sara (07:42)

    So you want to be on J V?

    Katie (07:43)

    it was way better. I did not want to do six AMs.

    Sara (07:45)

    No, I would really like to learn how to swim.

    Katie (07:49)

    Okay.

    Sara (07:52)

    but then I get really, really scared going in a lap pool and just starting to swim next to people.

    Katie (08:00)

    Girl, what why?

    Sara (08:01)

    That is the most terrifying thing to me.

    Katie (08:04)

    Because like I thought you were gonna be like sharks. You're like

    Sara (08:09)

    No, like in a laptop.

    Katie (08:10)

    What are you what like what are you afraid of in this instance?

    Sara (08:13)

    I'm scared that people are gonna look at me and realize I don't know how to swim.

    Katie (08:18)

    You just get in your own lane. Usually the gym's around here you don't aren't fighting for there's usually open lanes and people won't go in a lane if you're in a lane unless every of the lane's full.

    Sara (08:27)

    See something I'm also curious about. How warm is the water in a lap pool? Are they heated?

    Katie (08:35)

    I mean I've been to the one in like five points and I would say it's not cold or h hot. Like it feels I don't know. It's like probably heated but it's not like warm.

    Sara (08:49)

    I think about that every time I pass a lap pool and I could easily check the temperature by bending down and feeling it.

    Katie (08:55)

    I promise you it would feel good. It was kinda nice.

    Sara (08:57)

    Cas.

    Katie (08:59)

    We can try that together. Okay, that one feels like an easy thing to check out the list.

    Sara (09:02)

    Yeah. So

    Katie (09:03)

    Okay, that's a good hobby.

    Sara (09:04)

    I think first so these I guess are our like fitness hobbies 'cause there's different

    Katie (09:10)

    Yeah, yeah.

    Well, I'm trying to learn how to crochet and I keep doing this thing where I buy the packs of like like a little mushroom. And I keep buying one that's too hard of a level, so I don't know how to do it and I keep getting stuck, but I'm gonna learn. So I've been doing a little mushroom keychain right now. And I just do a l little circle and then I undo it all 'cause I did it wrong. So I'm on try three right now.

    Sara (09:31)

    What would be like your end goal of something to crochet, like something really complicated?

    Katie (09:37)

    Hmm. So the issue is I just kinda want like a hobby that's just like relaxing that you just like do something with your hands.

    Sara (09:45)

    So you wouldn't want make like a dress or something.

    Katie (09:47)

    I'm not trying to for

    absolutely not, but I do like where your head's out there.

    Sara (09:52)

    Yeah, you gotta reach for the stars.

    Katie (09:54)

    I think that ideally it's just like doing that for like fun. Like maybe I could do little trinkets for like my friends, but if they threw it away I wouldn't be upset. Maybe a hat. I don't know.

    Sara (10:04)

    Fair enough. I'm just picturing like a little elf hat.

    Katie (10:10)

    Yeah, exactly. I wanna actually I wanna be able to make the peaky hats that's

    Sara (10:16)

    Yeah.

    Katie (10:18)

    my creative hobby that I'm currently really bad at. And sewing like the one that I think I could be good at, but I'm scared to try.

    Is it good from bad?

    Sara (10:26)

    Yeah. Yeah,

    Katie (10:28)

    So

    Sara (10:28)

    that could happen.

    Katie (10:29)

    Yeah. But I should try. It's just having time to do all this stuff. But now I'm kind of home for a little bit. Good.

    Sara (10:35)

    Yeah.

    It just takes so much I've also been I need creative hobbies that I don't have to focus so much on that I can't understand what's going on like in a show that I have on in the background.

    Katie (10:51)

    Okay, that's why I feel like crocheting could be the answer. Yeah. But you have to be like a level. Like I'm not at the level where I could do that yet, but I feel like p you get to that level, maybe.

    Sara (10:58)

    Yeah. I do also think that I am going to if I start painting more, like I bought some canvases,

    Katie (11:08)

    Love.

    Sara (11:08)

    but something about me is I hate clutter.

    Katie (11:12)

    Yeah, you hate stuff.

    Sara (11:13)

    So I I just throw everything away. So I'm like, I'm not I'm not gonna sell them. I mean I could if I get really good.

    Katie (11:20)

    You could solve it. Come on.

    Sara (11:22)

    But what am I gonna do with all these paintings that I make? I could give them away to friends.

    Katie (11:27)

    Yeah, I would take him.

    Sara (11:29)

    but like I wouldn't want someone to give me paintings that they painted 'cause that's just more stuff in my house.

    Katie (11:37)

    Okay, yeah, you know. maybe you just give them back to Goodwill. You could just get canvases from Goodwill and then you could paint them. And then you could give them back.

    Sara (11:49)

    Yeah, that's true.

    Katie (11:51)

    But maybe you could sell them.

    Sara (11:53)

    Yeah, maybe one day I'll sell them. Ooh, another one. Yeah, I like this. But this is a

    Katie (11:57)

    Actually.

    Sara (11:58)

    This is a very intense hobby, I think, because I've made them before, but I do want to start scrapbooking again.

    Katie (12:05)

    you're a scrapbook queen.

    Sara (12:07)

    But

    I mean at this point I have so many years to catch up on.

    Katie (12:12)

    Yeah, that's the hard thing about scrapbooking is like filling a whole book and not going over or under, I feel like it's kind of a never ending hobby, which maybe is the goal.

    Sara (12:21)

    Yeah, and the only scrapbooks I've made are gifts for other people. Mm-hmm. And it's so disappointing. So then I get inspired at the end 'cause I don't want to give it away. And I'm like, I'm gonna make one for myself. But you can't make the same one that you made for someone else. I mean

    Katie (12:34)

    You could just do two at a time.

    Sara (12:36)

    Yeah, but that would that would be a lot.

    Katie (12:39)

    Yeah. We're not. I think it's kinda cool when you do like people do like the books of all their travels or whatever.

    Sara (12:44)

    Mm-hmm. Like Shutterfly?

    Katie (12:46)

    Yeah, see I like just in more electronic though than you are.

    Sara (12:49)

    Yeah. Yeah, like what is the difference between a shutterfly book and a scrapbook? Because I know,

    Katie (12:55)

    Trevor Burrus gets like a lot more time with your hand.

    Sara (12:57)

    like it would be so much more time and it's like why would I have rather have that than a shutterfly book?

    Katie (13:03)

    I feel like that's like a calming hobby where Shutterfly is like it's not necessarily relaxing or not relaxing, it's kind of just like Okay now we wanna take a minute for a quick break. We're actually sponsored by Shutterfly.

    Sara (13:16)

    Use code Two Strong GirlsLocker

    Katie (13:17)

    Okay

    Sara (13:20)

    and get ten percent Oscar order.

    Katie (13:26)

    Sorry. my I had

    Sara (13:28)

    Yeah.

    Katie (13:29)

    to do that. One thing. That would be so nice. I think we have to I think we have to get sponsors. Once we get a bit further reach. Okay, sorry to interrupt. I just had to take a quick break for our sponsors.

    Sara (13:39)

    I have to tie my shoe.

    Should have done it while I had to tie my shoe.

    Katie (13:47)

    Okay, I like this. I feel like we have a lot of hobbies though.

    Sara (13:51)

    Yeah, I mean we barely have any free time.

    Katie (13:55)

    I was saying to Riley, I like, Don't you kinda like miss being bored? And he was kinda like, What? I was like, I don't have been bored in so long.

    Sara (14:01)

    Yeah, but then when I'm bored, I absolutely hate it.

    Katie (14:04)

    No, but now I have such a like to do list for like when I'm bored.

    Sara (14:08)

    Yes, that's not actually boring. It's just not having plans.

    Katie (14:11)

    Yeah. But sometimes like when I mean this is so embarrassing. I'm glad I told you this. When I was in high school sometimes, most of my friends were in band when there's away football games, they'd be away and I wouldn't go 'cause that's crazy. And I would just sit in the room, in the playroom at my parents' house and I watch TED Talks all night, Friday night and it was like the best night of my week and I loved it. And part of me is like, Should I bring it back?

    Sara (14:36)

    That is wild.

    Katie (14:38)

    Cool,

    come on. I I was ahead of my time.

    Sara (14:42)

    That was like a weekly occurrence.

    Katie (14:43)

    No, it probably happened like mm once every two months.

    Sara (14:47)

    Wow.

    Katie (14:48)

    Once a month?

    Sara (14:50)

    I kinda love it.

    Katie (14:51)

    It was kinda cool. So that's like what I'm like ready to get back out.

    Sara (14:54)

    Should we start should one of our hobbies be intent to Yeah, true.

    Katie (14:59)

    Tetbox. we're pretty much doing it right now. Yeah. Those people

    behind us just stopped. You think they're looking at us.

    Sara (15:05)

    Probably.

    Katie (15:09)

    No they just turned, it's fine. okay, yeah. People like Dead Docs are still a thing. Didn't you know that?

    Sara (15:15)

    Don't th they have like different editions.

    Katie (15:19)

    But like people like are still doing TED Talks.

    Sara (15:23)

    This reminds me of something I actually think we should really try out. But in they're starting this thing across cities where they have these like presentations and it's really informal and casual and you get drinks and everything. Okay. And someone presents on like a really niche topic that they're an expert on. Love. And it seems so fun, but they have it in Denver. And it's like people who I don't know, it could be like scientific or

    They work in a psychology field or something, they just present on pretty much like what they do and what they know. I have

    Katie (15:58)

    So where and where is this and coming?

    Sara (16:00)

    no idea. I saw it on Instagram.

    Katie (16:03)

    See, I think that we should be going to more like college talks or like things like that.

    Like there's a guest speaker. So I'm in. But are you trying to be the speaker? Sorry. I meant that.

    Sara (16:12)

    I actually hate public speaking.

    Katie (16:14)

    But you are a known speaker at the government, didn't you speak at the Counc City Council?

    Sara (16:19)

    City Council. Board meeting. Water and sewer.

    Katie (16:22)

    So like if

    anyone should be giving speeches, they feel like it's you.

    Sara (16:27)

    Yeah, true. Need me to talk about high water bills. I could absolutely give a TED talk on that.

    Katie (16:36)

    I think that would be interesting.

    Sara (16:37)

    Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people would want to listen.

    Katie (16:39)

    Maybe

    that's i the crazy thing that you do that goes viral. I would like this is how I envision it. You with a p pointed stick and a chalkboard and you're just pointing to the board, talking about water. Hmm. What do you think?

    Sara (16:51)

    Yeah, I don't know how many episodes I would make.

    Katie (16:54)

    You could just do one and then it goes viral and then you promote the podcast. And you say, We're gonna take a quick ad break to we are sponsored by two hot smart girls walking.

    Sara (17:02)

    Let's just add adjectives every time. Yeah, we add versions.

    Katie (17:06)

    I think

    that's good. Every ad we get we get to add one more adjective. That would be sick. We're gonna get so many ads.

    Sara (17:12)

    Yes. my gosh, they're gonna love it when it gets to like two hundred characters for a code.

    Katie (17:18)

    Sick. Okay, this is good.

    Sara (17:22)

    Mm-hmm.

    Katie (17:24)

    Any other hobbies that you're thinking about? Mahjong. We're getting into Mahjong.

    Sara (17:27)

    Can we have

    right, right, right. How I could forget Yeah.

    Katie (17:31)

    Well we've kinda gotten into reading. I

    would say. Well maybe we've been into it, but I feel like this year's been higher, at least for me.

    Sara (17:36)

    Yeah, it's been hard f I go through phases.

    Katie (17:39)

    Do you count the books?

    Sara (17:41)

    that I read? Yeah. No. I do I try to use good reads and like catch up on reviewing because

    Katie (17:47)

    Yeah.

    Sara (17:49)

    I forget about it like every six months. yeah, like I was flying through books in audiobooks. I've been on an audiobook kick.

    Katie (18:00)

    Yeah.

    Sara (18:02)

    And I was a little slow at work, so I would just grind them like eight hours a day. So was just flying through them. But now work I have to like actually focus. So I just listen to non lyric music. E D specifically. Okay. And just lock in. I can't be listening to audiobooks. So I'm slowing down.

    Katie (18:22)

    That makes sense. I feel like audiobooks I like to work out to an audiobook, hot take or not hot take. What?

    Sara (18:27)

    You like

    Katie (18:28)

    Work out to an audiobook?

    Sara (18:30)

    Okay, I have run to it, but it has to be like a thriller.

    Katie (18:34)

    Okay, I'm talking about like li lifting weights. Like I'm just like lifting

    Sara (18:36)

    Yeah,

    that's that's crazy. Sometimes I'll be really crazy and do a podcast

    Katie (18:42)

    I do that all the time.

    Sara (18:42)

    but I feel like that is the extent that I would go.

    Katie (18:46)

    I feel like I'm just like entertained. Like I'm not gonna like lift any different if I was listening to music. I wouldn't No? Disagree?

    Sara (18:52)

    See that

    I disagree with that.

    Katie (18:56)

    Okay, yeah. I feel like so reading has been kind of like a good hobby that I feel like we've kind of consistently maintained.

    Sara (19:00)

    Yeah.

    And I do think it's fun to read the same books as a like book

    Katie (19:04)

    Like our book club.

    Sara (19:05)

    bub.

    Katie (19:05)

    Cute. Say our host book club. Aww.

    Sara (19:08)

    Aww. But I even wanna just tell my like long distance friends to read the same book as me so that we can like have something that makes us chat more often than we do.

    Katie (19:18)

    Love. I love that idea.

    Sara (19:20)

    My mom. My mom read the

    Katie (19:24)

    Compound.

    Sara (19:24)

    no. What is the the T V show that just came out? That's really good, that we watched, we binged with

    Katie (19:34)

    Why do I have no idea?

    Sara (19:35)

    Garrett.

    Katie (19:36)

    my gosh, on off campus.

    Sara (19:37)

    Yeah,

    my mom apparently read all those books.

    Katie (19:40)

    Those books are raunchy. I liked them. Well I loved them. Yeah. that's so funny that she listen read those. I mean parts of them I was just like, this is insane.

    Sara (19:53)

    Then I told her we had she had to watch.

    Katie (19:55)

    That's actually the sickest thing I've ever seen.

    Sara (19:58)

    Could be a hobby that we get exactly.

    Katie (20:01)

    so did she watch the show?

    Sara (20:03)

    No she didn't.

    Katie (20:05)

    Garrant's coming back up. I feel like the Cornell 7's bringing him back.

    Sara (20:09)

    Why is the cornell so?

    Katie (20:10)

    Well, they're like, this is how a guy should react. But he beats the other guy, nice.

    Sara (20:14)

    yeah. Yes.

    Katie (20:16)

    I've seen I've seen them back. I'm like, gosh, I can't wait for the next season. When does

    Sara (20:19)

    The next season you come out.

    Katie (20:21)

    I think they're like promoting it or f I don't know what they're doing. Hopefully soon.

    Sara (20:27)

    I am getting something that you must do in your free time at some point soon. Watch Vanderpump

    Katie (20:32)

    I'm so nervous. Will you tell me what?

    Laney told me that today too. I said Sarah's been trying to get me to watch this. Yeah,

    Sara (20:39)

    my gosh, I'm obsessed. Yeah.

    Katie (20:41)

    yeah. I think I'm convinced. Well, because Ted Lasso just finished it last night. So bad news, it's over. I'm really sad.

    Sara (20:49)

    shut.

    Katie (20:50)

    Sarah watched the first season with us and then she decided that she doesn't finish T V shows and she just forgot to keep watching it.

    Sara (20:57)

    There are so many TV shows I've not finished.

    Katie (20:59)

    But you watch Love Island.

    Sara (21:01)

    I am obsessed with Love Island.

    Katie (21:03)

    Yeah, like that just doesn't make any sense to me. But I guess that's good. I cannot watch that.

    Sara (21:06)

    Yellowstone. We got to six

    seasons. We got to like season five and just never finished it.

    Katie (21:15)

    I kinda respect it. Are like waiting 'cause like you don't want it at the end or you just legitimately forgot?

    Sara (21:19)

    Okay, so if it if it were up to me, I would finish shows really quickly, which is why when it's on my terms, like a reality,

    Katie (21:26)

    Island.

    Sara (21:28)

    I binge it. But when I have to watch them with PJ, he refuses to watch more than one episode in a row.

    Katie (21:35)

    He has to watch like bird call videos. He's really missing Yeah, I don't know what you're thinking.

    Sara (21:39)

    has to practice his bird calling.

    So that is like a snail's pace of watching a good show and then we don't watch it one night and then we're like out of out of the swing of things and then it just falls off.

    Katie (21:56)

    Yeah. That makes sense. See, Riley like loves the show. Like we he he would binge for probably he could do all day. Gosh,

    Sara (22:06)

    Sarah But that's also what the nice thing about reality TV is because I can binge it and do other things. Like I don't have to be super focused.

    Katie (22:15)

    Yeah, that's true.

    Sara (22:16)

    I think I've told you this before, but Vanderpump and Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, I've solely just listened to the audio and not even be watching the show like during work.

    Katie (22:25)

    It's honestly impressive. Yeah, it's pretty But I do that but with Gilmer Girls.

    Sara (22:31)

    I actually have not seen Gilmore girls all the way through.

    Katie (22:35)

    I watched it like every year of college probably and then now I have this T V that has a twenty four seven Gilbert Girls channel and that's what I watched like it was on all weekend I had it on. I like watch it all weekend, but I like listening while I was cooking. Watch it. Should we go the long way? Should go that way? Yeah.

    Sara (22:50)

    Okay,

    another random point.

    Katie (22:53)

    You did bring you did bring some points today. Okay, let's go.

    Sara (22:58)

    I've been really in really into means today I was searching on Pinterest, but I think I wanna be better about my fashion sense.

    Katie (23:10)

    my gosh, my friend just told me that I have good fashion and she said that she's trying to work on her personal sense of style and I said, I don't, but thank you. So

    Sara (23:17)

    So that's

    Katie (23:17)

    what are you looking at? What are the inspos?

    Sara (23:21)

    So I was thinking, 'cause I love fall, but it's such a short amount of time that I'm like, I'm not gonna buy a lot of fall things. Cause when I think of fall, it's like denim skirt with like high boots and a sweater. cute. Okay. But first of all, where would I wear that that's not work? In work it has to be an appropriate length skirt.

    Katie (23:43)

    You should go super sexy to work. I don't know what you're talking about.

    Sara (23:47)

    The finger rule, the fingertip rule. So then I've just been perusing Pinterest, basically. I'm making a list on Amazon. I put everything in my cart and then I buy nothing because I realize that it's too much money if I buy like twenty things.

    Katie (24:06)

    Well no, you just start on Poshmark. Poshmark is like I literally am addicted.

    Sara (24:10)

    Yeah, and I I think I need to go to a thrift store because yeah. A better quality one too. So I

    Katie (24:12)

    Yes. Even the vibe. Yeah. Amazon stuff is like mid.

    Sara (24:19)

    I agree and I think it's getting worse quality.

    Katie (24:21)

    If like you have to like try harder to get the good stuff.

    Sara (24:25)

    That's another way we can make money is Amazon influencing.

    Katie (24:28)

    Alright guys, shop our storefront. Amazon dot shop by slash two hot really hot sexy Amazon girls walking.

    Sara (24:34)

    Smart,

    sexy, strong women.

    Katie (24:38)

    Yeah, just write that down.

    Sara (24:40)

    But that's why I texted you this morning at like six AM saying where's your denim?

    Katie (24:44)

    Not

    responded and then I text and I was like, shit.

    Sara (24:47)

    Then I realized I had sent you like three I was gonna send you another message and it was like eight AM and I like, I've already sent her like four different text messages.

    Katie (24:53)

    So here's the deal. We have you know how at the house there's like a swan cooler or evaporative cooler. Mm-hmm. A C. So turning on your AC is like a whole pain in the butt. So we've put it on vent, so it just like vents air outside inside. But during the day I have to turn off vent because it gets hot. And so I turn on during the day I turn on just the fans in the house that pump air from the basement because it's cooler. But during the night we vent and it gets to like fifty-five degrees in the morning in the house because we're just pumping this air in.

    And so this morning it was really cold and I woke up and it was just I didn't have any calls until like nine and so I got just we were so cuddly and it was so nice and so I was really slow this morning and that's also freezing.

    Sara (25:35)

    That is crazy work. It's probably really good for you. Is it really

    Katie (25:39)

    Yeah,

    I feel like really healthy now. It's like my whole life is why I'm a skinny techie hot smart.

    Sara (25:47)

    Extra hot. Extra cold but sexy.

    Katie (25:50)

    Yeah, yeah. We're gonna add cold to the list. We're gonna take a lap to the right. Okay. Just need to avoid the people. Yep.

    Sara (25:58)

    Okay.

    Katie (26:00)

    Yeah, that too. so anyways, all to say, I started my day from behind to today. I was behind on literally everything. For the first two hours of my work day, all I did was respond to people's messages, asking me questions about things, and then I had two hours of one on ones, and then I had to help your loving boyfriend solve his problems. And

    So I didn't read your messages until later. So I do apologize.

    Sara (26:25)

    So fun fact about me is whenever PJ goes on work trips or goes anywhere, the first night that he's gone, I do not sleep.

    Katie (26:36)

    That's just my nightmare.

    Sara (26:37)

    And that is it happens every single time he leaves. So

    Katie (26:40)

    Just sleep over.

    Sara (26:41)

    I always fall asleep at nine thirty. Me and him get in bed, immediately fall asleep. Grandma, grandpa. I know, literally. I get in bed, I went to the movies last night.

    Katie (26:51)

    Yeah, I wanna hear about it if I keep on telling the story.

    Sara (26:53)

    got home at like nine thirty, I was so tired. And those th I'm I'm really tired. My body's tired. My mind is tired. And then I just think of the most random thoughts ever.

    Katie (27:05)

    Like you're gonna die thoughts? Like someone's gonna do how or like

    Sara (27:08)

    I need to look up like this pair of jeans that I saw today. Like it is

    Katie (27:13)

    Like where'd a kitty get her dress?

    Sara (27:14)

    Yeah, so absurdly random. Okay. But then I must and then it's like itching away at my brain that I have to pick up my phone. Because the goal is to not pick up my phone and wake my brain up. But then I'm at a point of no return. So that happened until like 1 a.m. this morning.

    Katie (27:32)

    no.

    Sara (27:33)

    And my alarm was set for four forty five.

    Katie (27:36)

    What?

    Sara (27:37)

    But I gave myself some time and I woke up at five fifteen.

    Katie (27:41)

    Thirty minutes. Yeah.

    no. Absolutely not.

    Sara (27:46)

    But now I know I'll be able to sleep tonight 'cause that's just how it goes. I resume my regularly scheduled sleep on the second night.

    Katie (27:54)

    horrible. I'm sorry. That's like that's so sad. Yes, you're like so tough for being here.

    Sara (27:59)

    So everyone can feel really bad for Yeah, I'm like extra strong today.

    Katie (28:05)

    That's crazy actually. Good for you. For really just pushing through.

    Sara (28:08)

    Hi

    okay, I have been so actually I've been so lucky recently.

    Katie (28:13)

    Okay.

    Sara (28:14)

    And today I guess it didn't really benefit me, but like lucky things have just been happening to me. Okay beast. I went to Starbucks because I chew myself on Wednesday mornings after the gym.

    Katie (28:25)

    Iconic.

    Sara (28:28)

    I always order through the app. Today I just order through the drive-thru and I get to the window and I usually only drink hot coffee.

    Katie (28:37)

    yeah, that's wild.

    Sara (28:38)

    So I ordered a hot Americano and before I even like realized they were giving me an ice, the person was like, We made this iced accidentally, but we know it's wrong. So I'm gonna give you this and I'm gonna give you the hot one. I was like, dang, that's so nice.

    Katie (28:53)

    Whoa.

    Was it a nice Americana? Was it selling different?

    Sara (28:57)

    Yeah It was a nice Mercano.

    Katie (29:00)

    nice. What do you like more?

    Sara (29:02)

    I end up giving that away. But I was like still like all these crazy things are happening to me.

    Katie (29:07)

    Wheat, Sarah what else has happened? I need to hear all the lucky the lucky shriek.

    Sara (29:11)

    I think going to that what was it? What's it called? Michelin Star restaurant. Just

    Katie (29:17)

    yeah, yeah.

    Sara (29:18)

    like walking in getting literal like princess treatment because they had to move us from the bar we had no reservation at to a table because of a private private party and got all

    Katie (29:29)

    It's like the best case scenario. You could

    Sara (29:31)

    of our drinks paid for, all of our dessert and meals basically paid for.

    Katie (29:36)

    Love.

    Sara (29:38)

    And just so randomly.

    Katie (29:41)

    Thing. I love this for you. I'm on the team Sarah gets lucky. Yeah.

    Sara (29:45)

    Keep it going.

    Katie (29:46)

    I'm so this well, it's our year. We're manifesting.

    Sara (29:48)

    Yeah.

    Katie (29:49)

    So.

    Sara (29:50)

    Three three sixty five year, not three month year.

    Katie (29:52)

    Okay, I'm gonna go on a three month year and then hopefully you can catch up in three hundred and sixty four days. Okay.

    Sara (29:57)

    Fine.

    Katie (29:58)

    No, I can do both. that's so fun. Also, I do feel like this is kind of how our walks usually go. So that's like what's been interesting is like anything is that different.

    Sara (30:08)

    I agree. I

    And I'm not even holding my mic so I don't even feel like I'm talking to anyone but you.

    Katie (30:16)

    This is so good, we don't get all the secrets guys.

    Sara (30:18)

    Yeah, I'm gonna start spilling. It is full fall.

    Katie (30:25)

    Wow. Also you're gonna start playing tennis again?

    Sara (30:28)

    I think before I start playing, I want to take a tennis lesson.

    Katie (30:32)

    You should at Gates

    Sara (30:34)

    Okay.

    Katie (30:35)

    It's by Trader Joe's on Colorado.

    It's free, they're not that expensive. You can do a group lesson and pay a lot less or you can do like if you impeached a lesson it's like just like you pay less if you do do you two people.

    Sara (30:49)

    Do you still take lessons? Like are there advanced lessons?

    Katie (30:55)

    Yeah, yeah, you can always take lessons. Okay. And I don't think I'm advanced, but thank you for saying that.

    Sara (31:00)

    You like do tournaments and stuff, I'd say that's advanced.

    Katie (31:03)

    Okay, well I did one tournament and it was really fun I wanna do it again.

    Sara (31:05)

    Really good. I think

    you should. I really r one of my hobbies that I can't control is I wanna start watching people I know play sport.

    Katie (31:16)

    well I'll start playing more sports, but I think I have to wait till the winter's over.

    So that might be might gone. But no, I will play more sports. I'm in. And are you your basketball season over?

    Sara (31:30)

    Yeah, I'm taking the season off.

    Katie (31:32)

    Why? Sarah?

    Sara (31:34)

    Yeah. I I think our whole team was sick of losing, so we said, let's take a season off.

    Katie (31:44)

    Do you think any of them secretly joined another league without telling you guys?

    Sara (31:46)

    I bet they definitely did.

    Katie (31:48)

    Okay. Dang. That's kinda crazy. I'm sad for you, but maybe it's good for the

    Sara (31:53)

    I

    think it might be good. Wow. It started it started to be something that I was not looking forward to every week.

    Katie (31:59)

    Yeah.

    Sara (32:01)

    that usually happens with basketball. I like miss it and then get into a routine of it and then get really sick of it. Okay.

    Katie (32:10)

    So we're taking a break, but we'll come back, you think?

    Sara (32:13)

    Probably come back eventually.

    Katie (32:15)

    Maybe I'll start playing volleyball again, you can come watch.

    Sara (32:17)

    Ooh, yeah.

    Katie (32:18)

    But I don't know. It seems like it's a big I'm not h I need to start staying in town longer and then I can play more sports. True. Sure, on that road. Yeah. Like we've never done this direction, so it's kind of throwing me. If

    Sara (32:31)

    we

    train for high rocks yeah, that'll get us in good shape for sport.

    Katie (32:37)

    Yeah, I think that well I HiRox is like better for us because well me, because I'm not trying to distance run it anymore.

    Sara (32:42)

    Yeah.

    Katie (32:43)

    I think it's like a seven K or something, seven or ten K, but you like one K between every workout.

    Sara (32:48)

    Yeah.

    Katie (32:49)

    So that feels really doable.

    Sara (32:51)

    Yeah, it does. The thought of like running full out for one K like I can't do that.

    Katie (32:59)

    But I think we can just do it at our own pace. I don't know if we're necessarily trying to win at the first one, maybe the second one.

    Sara (33:04)

    Yeah, but you know how we like we're gonna try to go really hard. Yeah.

    Katie (33:07)

    Yeah.

    Sara (33:08)

    Even if we don't even train like it, like when we're in the competition, like we would just try to Yeah.

    Katie (33:13)

    Do

    you think we would match? Like like matching outfits. What do you wear? What do

    Sara (33:16)

    Like obviously.

    Katie (33:20)

    you mean by not on Amazon? Shot my

    Sara (33:24)

    Code.

    see I I can't do spandex because my legs are too big. Like a shorts

    Katie (33:33)

    Yeah, I mean I think

    Sara (33:35)

    and sports bra, but probably not that either. Maybe.

    Katie (33:41)

    Okay, let's go.

    No, we can rock that. We can rock it ever. Okay, I like that.

    Sara (33:47)

    Fun colour.

    Katie (33:49)

    so this was my next thought. We're really pivoting here. But what do you feel like lately you've done that you're most proud of?

    Sara (33:55)

    God.

    I didn't know this was like a self improvement podcast.

    Katie (34:01)

    No no it's not prevented just like something you're like, wow. I have an answer for you, but I don't have an answer for me.

    Sara (34:07)

    Something that I've done that I'm proud of? Or something that you've done.

    Katie (34:08)

    Well I yeah,

    y yeah. Something that you've done that I I think you should be proud of.

    Sara (34:17)

    gosh.

    Katie (34:18)

    This is why I was thinking about this.

    Sara (34:21)

    What have I done? Does it have to do with work?

    Katie (34:24)

    No.

    Sara (34:27)

    Hmm. I know this isn't what you're gonna say, but I think that I've been a lot better recently at making plans with friends and calling friends and just like making time for friends. We

    Katie (34:43)

    Love. That's so good.

    Sara (34:45)

    Like I've been calling people when I'm in the car, which honestly sometimes I just am not in the mood to like call anyone on my way back from work.

    But today I was like, I really don't want to. Not that I don't want to talk to them, but I was like, I just don't want to have a whole like forty-five minute conversation. But I ended up doing it and it was really great.

    Katie (35:06)

    Wee, I'm so proud. Okay, love. I was gonna say you going to solo camping.

    Sara (35:12)

    yeah.

    Katie (35:12)

    I was proud of that.

    Sara (35:13)

    That was really fun. Kira got really mad at me for doing that. Tigri.

    Katie (35:16)

    You were so safe. That

    was so good.

    Sara (35:20)

    It was actually really great. Like going out to dinner by yourself at a sit-down restaurant. Like I don't think I'd done that before.

    Katie (35:29)

    That's like kind of a huge accomplishment whenever you can do that.

    Sara (35:31)

    I I've done it in Europe but it just seems more common there, so I didn't feel as crazy. but it was great experience. Thought I was gonna hate it.

    Katie (35:42)

    Love.

    What food did you get?

    Sara (35:46)

    Like a wrap in a beer.

    Katie (35:48)

    Okay, classic. Love, love both.

    Sara (35:50)

    Yeah.

    Katie (35:51)

    Okay, I like that. That's a good answer. Times two.

    Sara (35:54)

    Okay, what's something that you're proud of?

    Katie (35:57)

    Well, I've started thinking about after I asked you 'cause I realized I asked you thinking about the characters and I tried had started thinking. My thing that I had thought of is I think I've been doing better at doing things I'm bad at. And it's been good. And not like

    Sara (36:10)

    Examples.

    Katie (36:11)

    Well, this doing my podcast and then this podcast. Mm-hmm. And then trying to like finish my creative endeavors to like I've always wanted to make apps, so I've been trying to make some apps. Don't think they're that good, but it's like fun to like improve them and

    Just try to make th like do things that I'm not or like do things without the fear of being bad and still try that.

    Sara (36:31)

    Yeah. Do you think you're inspired to be doing more creative things because Riley is very like creative when it comes to house things?

    Or do you think it's independent?

    Katie (36:48)

    well okay, so part of my creative is like I want to like display the stuff that he does so that he could like monetize or at least like I'd like him to be able to like have more freedom work-wise. So like part of me is like it'd be cool if I got good at this, any sort of media or whatever, and then I could like put his stuff out there and then have him be able to just like do the cool stuff, and I would be like the behind the scenes like promoter promoter.

    But I don't think I'd ever be like creative in the same way he is, but maybe a little bit. I haven't really thought about that. I think part of it is I wanna just find something like a next job. And so I'm trying to explore different areas. And I feel like when you're in college, I feel like it's like I was like, I wanna like be like a big deal, and now I'm kinda like, I just wanna do something like. Yeah. So like I feel like I've been trying to just find things that I like.

    So maybe that's it. I don't know. Maybe it maybe he is, but I haven't like consciously thought that I guess.

    Sara (37:47)

    Yeah.

    Katie (37:50)

    Hm, interesting. I like that. I was thinking it's just like kinda nice for your brain sometimes.

    Sara (37:56)

    Yeah, I agree.

    Katie (37:57)

    Feels good.

    Sara (37:58)

    I think I've been bad about handling stress for the past like few years. Not

    like a bad I just like don't I don't know, I need like that creative outlet and I just have not and like I spent too much time scrolling.

    Katie (38:19)

    Okay, that's also what I'm trying to be creative about is because I really need to get off my phone.

    Sara (38:23)

    Yeah. I

    Katie (38:25)

    Sorry, we're just gonna cross.

    Sara (38:27)

    Me being analytical too, I wanna set like I haven't laid this out yet, but like some harsher restrictions of like not using my phone when I wake up for like a certain amount of time before bed. Yeah. Things like that.

    Katie (38:45)

    Okay, I'm a big fan of the like block yourself on off Instagram after shit number minutes. I like actually started following it and it's kind of awesome.

    Sara (38:55)

    Should

    we get a break?

    Katie (38:58)

    Okay, I was me on this actually. Because I think we could just make our own. They're too expensive. But we should either

    Sara (39:05)

    Okay.

    Katie (39:05)

    I don't know, fifty or sixty probably.

    Sara (39:07)

    But if you use our promo code.

    Katie (39:09)

    But actually this is a good opportunity to say. We're actually sponsored by Brett.

    Sara (39:15)

    They sue us for saying

    Katie (39:16)

    okay I to make it very clear we're not sponsored by anyone at the moment, but if you'd like to sponsor us, please reach out to

    Sara (39:21)

    for all of our listen.

    Katie (39:23)

    For all of our listeners. we'll get an email out to you. I'll attach it in the tag. Okay, no, so I have been practicing with my my iPhone shortcuts. Mm-hmm. And I make little YouTube videos about them if I make one. But you can do so many things with the shortcut and you could just break your phone like an NFC card and NFC cards cost like nothing.

    So I think we could just make our own brick. All this

    Sara (39:48)

    Interesting.

    Katie (39:49)

    to say. I'm down to do it, but I think that I would rather it be entertained enough to like build it. Mm-hmm. Cause I think that's another thing I want to get into because my remote from my previously mentioned AC. Every time you want to use it, just take gratuities out, let it sit, and then come back in and then

    Sara (40:06)

    my gosh.

    Katie (40:07)

    So I wanna r essentially take it apart and then like make it they're really expensive, but I wanna make my own.

    like controls on it. Which I kinda think I could do, but that's kind of founded under no data that I have to support that I could do that. I

    Sara (40:23)

    It's crazy thinking about how some basic things work. Like I have no idea how like a T V remote actually works.

    Katie (40:31)

    Okay, so I'm like weirdly right now on my side of the internet is like people designing stuff with like Raspberry Pis, like those tiny computers, or like they just do stuff until I like think I could find a video to do it. But it's just like a motherboard of sorts that has some sort of signal that it sends to a receiver.

    Sara (40:48)

    Yeah.

    Katie (40:49)

    And it changes the signal based on what you press.

    Sara (40:51)

    Yeah, see that is all over my head. I comprehend

    Katie (40:53)

    No, I don't think it is. I feel like you could

    Sara (40:56)

    like materials and like physic type things. Electricity absolutely not. Or like weight and I don't know. I can't comprehend any of that in my brain. I feel

    Katie (41:10)

    you definitely could figure this out. And Riley told me that I'm allowed to do it if we don't need to use the remote anymore. Because he was like but I'm like we're to get a new one anyways. He's like yeah but we can get a new one next year. And I said that's actually kind of a smart point. So I'm I'm putting it on delay until it gets actually cold enough that we don't need the AC anymore.

    Sara (41:26)

    Is their moat expensive?

    Katie (41:28)

    It's like two hundred bucks. whoa. I'm like gosh. What

    Sara (41:32)

    Did you just use your phone?

    Katie (41:33)

    No. Well maybe, I don't know how. I'm gonna do that's what I'm gonna figure out at some point. I think it'd be a fun little side project.

    Sara (41:39)

    I have a crazy story talking.

    Katie (41:41)

    Let's let's hear about it.

    Sara (41:42)

    So I had, you know, all the things that happened when PJ's gone. I lost the remote one night. And

    Katie (41:50)

    no.

    Sara (41:51)

    so I got one of the stupid apps so that you can control the TV from your phone.

    Katie (41:56)

    Okay.

    Sara (41:58)

    And it was like, sign up for free trial. And I was like, no. It wouldn't let me use it. And I was like, okay, fine. It was like a seven-day

    I put the reminder on my phone. I ended up just canceling it that night. Yeah.

    Katie (42:10)

    That's fine.

    Sara (42:13)

    then it's like two months that go by and I start looking and I get all these Apple charges. And to me, Apple, that's just like, yeah, I should get charged by Apple every month. Like I don't think about it. Okay. 'Cause I I pay for like extra storage. Yeah. but it was like nine ninety nine and I started using this AI website.

    monarch that like ours expenses and

    Katie (42:37)

    Nice.

    Sara (42:40)

    it was like review these recurring expenses and I was called out a nine ninety nine charge every five days.

    Katie (42:51)

    What? I had spent like

    Sara (42:54)

    over a hundred dollars on this remote and I had no idea I went to go cancel it and it said you don't have any subscription.

    Katie (43:01)

    Wait, what?

    Sara (43:02)

    Then I went into the app itself.

    Katie (43:05)

    You should report it.

    Sara (43:06)

    I did report it and they're not refunding me, but I went to I wanted to contact the actual app

    Katie (43:13)

    Yeah.

    Sara (43:13)

    admin. I go into the app, there's a menu of like contact us. The contact us button is broken. It doesn't work. I was like, how is this a top search on Apple Store? This is crazy. Yeah.

    Katie (43:27)

    Alright, we're now sponsored by Universal Remote, top search on App Store. Only nine ninety nine every five days.

    Sara (43:33)

    I think I'm their biggest investor. That's ins

    Katie (43:36)

    Did it work?

    Sara (43:37)

    So no I so I put the the complaint into Apple too.

    Katie (43:41)

    Yeah, you should. 'Cause they're they're supposed to put it in the subscriptions, I think.

    Sara (43:45)

    Yes. And so that's where I went to look and it said I had no active subscription. Look.

    Katie (43:50)

    Yeah, that's where I've always.

    Sara (43:51)

    So then it was like some sub menu like where I could actually see the details of what was charging me. But it wasn't labeled as a subscription. Like that sounds like a subscription to me. It's charging me every five days. also every five days. That's so random.

    Katie (44:06)

    So weird. I knew that was possible.

    Sara (44:07)

    So I submitted all of the things because Apple should reimburse you.

    'Cause they did for me one other time.

    Katie (44:16)

    So you're right.

    Sara (44:18)

    Yeah, it was it was at the same time actually because I found out that I had been paying for something else, like it renewed and

    Katie (44:23)

    Annual. What if you just had like thirty subscription no fifteen subscriptions so we have one every five days?

    Sara (44:29)

    ads

    where it's like rocket money like you think you have four subscriptions, you have forty and

    Katie (44:35)

    This is literally yeah.

    Sara (44:35)

    I'm like, my god, that's so unrealistic.

    Katie (44:39)

    That's crazy that that's lit you're their target market.

    Sara (44:42)

    Yeah, anyway, they didn't reimburse me, but I didn't get a single charge after that. So I guess they cut them off from my credit card.

    Katie (44:50)

    I did because my bank tells me my recurring and I've been paying for like somehow my parents' Amazon accounts like Star TV, seven ninety nine a month, what's coming out off my card. And I was like, Mom, what is this? So I deleted it, obviously. But I think that people do have the head and subscription. So Rocky Money, if you want to sponsor us

    Sara (45:10)

    Use code.

    Katie (45:13)

    That is annoying though.

    Sara (45:15)

    I think one of my most expensive subscriptions, let me know why I still have this, LinkedIn Premium.

    Katie (45:18)

    I'm scared. Yeah, why do you still have that?

    Sara (45:21)

    Cause I'm always telling myself that I'm looking for a new job.

    Katie (45:25)

    Alright, you should cancel it and do like when you have thirty days left and then be like, I have to grind for thirty days before I lose it.

    Sara (45:31)

    Yeah.

    Katie (45:31)

    What do you think?

    Sara (45:32)

    Yeah, this is true. I do this with class pass too. I'll sign up for like a month when I'm really into doing workout classes and then I won't use it for a month and then all my credits expire. It's a really fun thing I do.

    Katie (45:44)

    actually really cool because Sarah is actually teaching a what do you do with your money course if you want to follow us on that show. That's

    Sara (45:50)

    If we need inspo.

    Katie (45:52)

    smart. I like it. This is good.

    Sara (45:55)

    Yeah.

    Katie (45:57)

    Well, I'm happy you got it resolved, but hopefully they refund you and then obviously if they refund you, that means get to spend that money on shopping.

    Sara (46:03)

    Obviously. I already thought about my new fashion staples shopping spree that I need to go on

    Katie (46:08)

    Okay, loved?

    Sara (46:09)

    and I realized that I have some cash. I'm gonna

    Katie (46:12)

    so that's going

    Sara (46:13)

    use that because it doesn't count.

    Katie (46:14)

    Yeah, I do have cash in all my bags and like I don't know where it's coming from, but it's kinda nice.

    Sara (46:18)

    And this

    cash is like money that my nana has given me for Christmas for like the past five years. Richard.

    Katie (46:25)

    so you're

    Sara (46:26)

    And just don't touch it. That's what I mean. She gives me like fifty bucks.

    Katie (46:29)

    Five years, 250 come. That's a whole shopping street. It's a whole outfit. Yeah. Yeah.

    Sara (46:34)

    Well yeah.

    Katie (46:36)

    Dang. Not if you go thrifting. Red, light, and blue. I'm alright.

    Sara (46:39)

    Yeah.

    Katie (46:40)

    Yeah, that's where I get a lot of my clothes. So I get that dress from Thrift Store. I can show you the tag, and then you can look it up on Poshmark.

    Sara (46:48)

    So there's what is your favorite level of like thrift store? 'Cause there's like Goodwill, then there's like art. Art, okay I feel like it's similar to Goodwill.

    Katie (46:58)

    Okay, yeah, I mean I exclusively shop at like the that level. But my issue is if they have round racks, I hate it. And if they have like a line, I like it.

    Sara (47:09)

    Why is that?

    Katie (47:10)

    Well is they just have more organization if you're walking down like a a row of clothes versus a circle. The circle is just like so inefficient and it makes me like very angry to shop there. And I say very angry, I just like leave. also I get very overstimulated when I go to Goodwill and Ark, because they play awful music. and they like repeat their ads like twenty every five minutes. Mm-hmm. So recently I bring AirPods and I shop while I listen to them 'cause I'm way too overstimulated and focused. I

    Sara (47:33)

    Mm-hmm.

    Katie (47:33)

    would highly recommend. It makes the experience literally a hundred times better. Sometimes I get so overstimulated that I just go sit in the car.

    Sara (47:39)

    Yeah.

    Katie (47:40)

    I it's too much. It's too loud.

    Sara (47:42)

    I just get overwhelmed by the amount of like shitty stuff that they have. Like they do have some good finds, but you have to be looking through a lot of shitty clothes to find them.

    Katie (47:53)

    And I feel like you have to be in the mood.

    Sara (47:54)

    Yeah.

    Katie (47:55)

    So like sometimes I'm like, I'd rather just sit in the car and read my Kindle while Riley shops and that's fine.

    Sara (47:59)

    And I think sometimes going into a thrift store with an idea of what you want, bad. Is really bad.

    Katie (48:04)

    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    Sara (48:06)

    I think it's maybe different for like jeans.

    Katie (48:09)

    Okay, I think it's different for jeans and if you just like want like a dress but you don't you're not like like

    Sara (48:13)

    Okay.

    Katie (48:15)

    I go in often I'm like I'm looking for a dress. I'm I'm not thinking I'm gonna think I'm not thinking for a bat and just like want another dress. I feel like that's successful.

    Sara (48:22)

    Yeah. I do think that the red, white, and blue one is like a tiny actually the quality is definitely above Goodwill and ARK.

    Katie (48:30)

    Yeah,

    I wanna go to the you went to because I think of them I feel like they're fine.

    Sara (48:33)

    Well, even the reviews of this one are really bad.

    Katie (48:37)

    Yeah.

    Sara (48:37)

    But they have like their shoe selection, they have all these like Nike running shoes.

    Katie (48:42)

    I love to get shoes from thrift stores. Is that gross?

    Sara (48:45)

    I don't I mean, I wouldn't buy running shoes but I feel like heels a hundred percent. Boots.

    Katie (48:50)

    Yeah, true.

    Sara (48:53)

    but they had like Athleta Lululemon and the prices are the same as Goodwill. So I bought like Athleta shorts for like eight dollars.

    Katie (49:00)

    That's great. Yeah. Yeah, I can get behind that. I'll have to go. Maybe I'll go this weekend when you leave me.

    Sara (49:06)

    'Cause

    then there are the like crossroads, the ones that are nicer.

    Katie (49:10)

    yeah.

    Sometimes I have lucky and sometimes it's just horrible.

    Sara (49:15)

    I do feel like I always find stuff there and maybe it's just because I have more patients looking 'cause it's not Yeah.

    Katie (49:22)

    Like cleaner.

    Sara (49:24)

    But then you think about how much you're spending and you could just go to Target. And I'm a big Target fan.

    Katie (49:29)

    See I really don't understand the target lore.

    Sara (49:35)

    That is

    crazy. I love it.

    Katie (49:37)

    I'm like apparently they have gotten good frozen food.

    Sara (49:42)

    I thought it's just not what I go to Target for.

    Katie (49:45)

    I'm just like what are you getting there? Like clothes?

    Sara (49:49)

    I I do love the clothes.

    Katie (49:51)

    I actually thrift a lot of target clothes.

    Sara (49:53)

    Their athletic

    is actually great.

    Katie (49:56)

    Yeah, they do. I do like their all in motion typically.

    Sara (49:59)

    Yes. I also get all my like work clothes there.

    Katie (50:04)

    I've been doing h halara from Poshmark. So interesting. But sometimes it's just okay. I

    Sara (50:16)

    I

    during work sometimes, like on my lunch break, 'cause there's a target. And

    Katie (50:21)

    No.

    Sara (50:22)

    I don't really like to socialize during my work of wild. I just go and walk through all the aisles with the goal of not spending anything. Like sometimes I won't even bring my phone or credit card so I don't spend anything. I just walk up and down the aisles.

    Katie (50:35)

    I do that with my little sister, but I usually end up buying stuff. And I'm like, why did I come here? Why am I spending this money on that I don't need to spend?

    Sara (50:42)

    Yeah, if I do bring my credit card in, then I usually can't spend less than a hundred dollars at Target.

    Katie (50:51)

    Well I'm like, I should get a drink. my gosh, I get an apple right now. Weed. they have nerves. beef jerky.

    Sara (50:58)

    See all of these things that you've mentioned about Target are food. And that is the last thing I think of when I think of Target.

    Katie (51:04)

    I think about food and like buying a weed. Like

    Sara (51:09)

    Home decor, like office supplies, like kitchen

    Katie (51:14)

    What office supplies are you buying?

    Sara (51:16)

    I like things to go on my desk, I don't know, like organizers.

    Katie (51:21)

    This so

    funny. No, I don't ever think about Target. Literally I never think about Target.

    Sara (51:25)

    This is crazy.

    Katie (51:26)

    They have good records sometimes. They do records that and only release at Target.

    Sara (51:30)

    Didn't even know they had records.

    Katie (51:32)

    We really go to the offset out. I usually go to the game aisle and see what new games there are.

    Sara (51:35)

    I never go to the game aisle. I mean this is sometimes

    I will browse the books, but they're all really expensive, so

    Katie (51:40)

    Though I'm

    really sensitive, I feel like they a lot of like YA. Makes sense.

    Sara (51:43)

    Yeah.

    Yeah.

    Katie (51:46)

    Pretty today.

    okay, will you take a picture of the view and then we'll do a selfie so that we can have some content. Give me a thumb.

    Sara (51:56)

    my gosh, my map has been on this whole time.

    Katie (51:59)

    my gosh, are you tracking your walk? my gosh.

    Sara (52:01)

    City

    Park. my gosh, we just told people where we are.

    Katie (52:05)

    Yeah, they're gonna find us. Wow. Okay, now do a

    Sara (52:13)

    Nice.

    Katie (52:14)

    That was so cute. People are gonna eat that up.

    We have to do one picture every walk.

    Sara (52:19)

    I love it. Okay.

    Katie (52:20)

    At least. then once we get to video it'll be really we'll have a whole camera crew falling a shot on our walks and we get big.

    Sara (52:26)

    Yes.

    Katie (52:27)

    so what are you gonna do with all the earnings that we have for my podcast?

    Sara (52:30)

    Hm, probably go to Target. Okay.

    Katie (52:33)

    Okay.

    I've decided I wanted to do an i get an iPad. Okay.

    Sara (52:36)

    You don't have an iPad?

    Katie (52:37)

    That was so rude. You don't have an iPad, do you? I've never seen you use an iPad. Really

    Sara (52:44)

    I really do have one. it's

    Katie (52:47)

    Mm-hmm.

    Sara (52:47)

    kind of an ongoing joke because like I didn't use it for the first like four years that I had it. And then comes PJ. Loves the iPad. He's

    Katie (52:56)

    And then he Yeah, duh.

    Sara (52:59)

    like, Can we use your iPad? But it's solely okay, I I have been liking reading on it. Okay, yeah. for like a flight.

    Katie (53:08)

    Yeah.

    Sara (53:09)

    And when I went camping alone in my car so I didn't have to like wear a a headlight to read.

    Katie (53:14)

    Yeah I

    mean but I have a Kindle and I love my Kindle.

    Sara (53:16)

    And when we watch shows in bed, because I am a big proponent of not having a T V in the bedroom.

    Katie (53:23)

    What do you call it? A projector?

    Sara (53:24)

    I think that's the same thing as a TV. as an iPad, yeah. Yeah, that's true. Okay.

    Katie (53:26)

    But having the iPad Yeah glad

    we're lined. okay, well I didn't even have an iPad, so clearly it's not that important.

    Sara (53:35)

    I actually rarely use it, but no, I kinda love it.

    Katie (53:38)

    So this is what happened. I've been staying on an iPad for the last like, I don't know, two years. And I told myself that I need to have one of my side quests make enough money that I can buy myself an iPad. And so far I made zero dollars and I'm only paid for my side quest. So we're not currently in the positive. But Riley just his parents offered him an iPad a while ago and I said, You should take it. I really want an iPad. He's like, we don't need an iPad. Then he went, what?

    And he got the iPad now. He has an iPad, and I am iPadless.

    Sara (54:12)

    Does he have it here in Denver?

    Katie (54:14)

    He has it at Denver. So he like sent it out yesterday.

    Sara (54:16)

    The iPad?

    Katie (54:17)

    Well he literally just got it. So it's been literally last year.

    Sara (54:20)

    Share his iPad. No one needs two iPads.

    Katie (54:23)

    But I want it to be okay, so I want it to be on my iCloud because I have a Mac and you can use it as another screen. So you can like drag your

    Sara (54:32)

    Yeah.

    Katie (54:32)

    so like he's logged into his iCloud and I want it to be linked to my computer.

    Sara (54:36)

    I have used that but I did it with Adele, so I had to buy some sketchy third party app. But it did work.

    Katie (54:45)

    See, kinda cool. So but that's like the only reason why why not my cloud I don't care about texting or anything. It's literally exclusively so that I could use it with my computer.

    Sara (54:53)

    Okay, I also have a new business idea.

    Katie (54:55)

    Okay, that's right.

    Sara (54:57)

    I hate the porta portable monitors that we have.

    Katie (55:01)

    I hate them. I just

    Sara (55:04)

    I know that there are some that like attach to your actual laptop. I don't like those either. There needs to be some other solution. I guess there is no other solution, but I'm like there's gotta be something that is less annoying than the stupid portable monitors.

    Katie (55:20)

    I'm trying to think 'cause like you'd want it to be thin. But like Riley, we just got him an iPod case on shopgoodwell.com and sponsored. He was like, I want one that's not like foldy, but one that you just like open like a laptop.

    Sara (55:33)

    Yeah.

    Katie (55:34)

    So what do you want like a another monitor like opens like a laptop? No pros and cons.

    Sara (55:39)

    No I actually I

    don't know what I want.

    Katie (55:44)

    I don't like it being c connected to the computer 'cause I've had the ones that fold out like wings and they're so bad.

    Sara (55:49)

    And then even the cord, I'm like, why doesn't this work? Yeah. Why is it really annoying to like, I don't know, stretch to wherever you need it?

    Katie (55:56)

    Yeah, I I mean I hate them. I just gave up on them. I use a big monitor.

    Sara (56:01)

    Whenever I whenever we go somewhere for the weekend, like when we went to Wyoming, yeah, and we're a car distance, I bring my full bottom and set it up at the Airbnb.

    Katie (56:10)

    yeah, yeah, I support that.

    That's what we did when we were in California. We brought our monitors, it was great. No notes.

    Sara (56:15)

    Yeah. No note.

    Katie (56:18)

    did I tell you that we booked our travel for the holidays?

    Sara (56:20)

    No. Are you gonna be gone forever?

    Katie (56:24)

    literally forever. Going to Ohio. Well, the Ohio plans might change because Riley might be going to Buffalo. But going to Ohio, either. The friend lives there, and they'll go to a game. but either Yeah.

    Going the Saturday before or Friday before Thanksgiving and staying till the Monday after, so it's like a good chunk of time. Mm-hmm. Or if he goes to the Bills game, I'll fly out Sunday, so I'll have the weekend in Denver. And then Christmas, we have a wedding. December twelfth. So we looked at flying home only to fly back three days later and I said, I'm not doing that. I said, I will fly back six six days later. Three days later I will not do. That's just so stupid. Yeah. So we're decided we're gonna fly.

    On the eleventh of December to Florida, stay in Florida, go to the beach, family, fly on the twenty eighth to Columbus, and then just be there until the thirty first and fly back on New Year's Eve. So the eleventh so twenty days. It

    Sara (57:24)

    Holy which it

    Katie (57:25)

    is less days than our last trip that was I didn't step foot in Colorado for the whole month of September.

    Sara (57:30)

    You were just gone. Yeah.

    Katie (57:33)

    Wow. So I think I'm gone for that long.

    Sara (57:35)

    So you're coming back on New Year's Eve.

    Katie (57:38)

    That's what we have right now. We might switch it to the second. but we just wanted to do like a quick celebration with this family too, and like not just like skip out entirely for think Christmas. Mm-hmm. And I like, that's fine, I really care. I I don't really care about New Year's Eve either, so

    Sara (57:52)

    Yeah. Hey, at this point in life, what are our thoughts on New Year's Eve? Like what are the vibes?

    Katie (57:58)

    Okay, so I've really liked the last two years when you and I did East Coast New Years and were at home by ten fifteen.

    Sara (58:04)

    I agree. That was my favorite

    Katie (58:06)

    Right.

    Sara (58:07)

    of the last two years.

    Katie (58:09)

    I don't care about it at all. I do still kind of wish that Riley and I were getting married on New Year's Eve because that would be electric. But he said that was too soon.

    Sara (58:17)

    I'm just playing a wedding in two months.

    Katie (58:19)

    Just stupid by him. My whole family was in on it and he said, No, that's crazy. New Year's Eve. I don't really care about it.

    Sara (58:26)

    do that's why I do think it would be a really fun wedding day.

    Katie (58:29)

    that's how I feel. That it'd be the most fun day to go to a wedding.

    Sara (58:32)

    Yeah, my aunt got married on New Year's Eve and I was like ten, but I had a freaking bl

    Katie (58:37)

    Yeah, it'd be so fun. I feel like that's like just a like it'd be an iconic day. Everyone is like happy to celebrate in general and it just takes pressure off everyone for making plans and doing all the

    Sara (58:47)

    Yeah, 'cause no one actually has concrete plans for New Year's Eve.

    Katie (58:50)

    I don't like going out if I have to drive 'cause like it's just scares me. So we've like walked the last couple of years. But I don't really care about it.

    Sara (58:57)

    Also

    it's you're gonna be having an indoor wedding. Yeah.

    Katie (59:01)

    yeah. So not in Florida. Florida you can be

    Sara (59:05)

    What is the weather like in Florida on Christmas? Are you serious?

    Katie (59:07)

    It's like this.

    It's like probably sometimes it's eighty, sometimes it's sixty. It's usually between

    Sara (59:14)

    My god.

    Katie (59:16)

    it's like not even like extra warm. That's like how it normally is. It's usually not like like you wouldn't go swimming. So probably not eighties, maybe like seventies.

    Sara (59:24)

    my goodness.

    Katie (59:26)

    I told Riley, I was like, here's the deal. I want to be in Denver because we haven't been here in a long time, but December's not a month that I particularly like Denver in.

    Sara (59:33)

    I just had a flashback because on Christmas Day one year in New Hampshire. Yes. I had gotten all of these this is when I was like first getting into running. So I got a lot of like running shoes, a running belt, apparel.

    Katie (59:50)

    Classic.

    Sara (59:53)

    And so I had to go on a run. It was negative twelve degrees out. And

    Katie (59:55)

    no, it was my god.

    Sara (59:59)

    I actually thought that I was like going to die.

    Katie (1:00:02)

    That's why would you do that?

    Sara (1:00:03)

    But imagine like having your wedding on like a negative five degree degree day, that seems a little even if you are inside and like it seems a little dreary.

    Katie (1:00:12)

    My friend's parents did that in Minnesota on New Year's Eve, and I think it like negative thirty. Yeah.

    Sara (1:00:17)

    Yeah.

    Katie (1:00:17)

    Like that just is miserable. But it doesn't get like that here.

    Sara (1:00:20)

    I used I don't know if it if you are inside it doesn't really matter.

    Katie (1:00:25)

    I feel like Colorado gets to like on a crazy week it gets to zero. Like

    Sara (1:00:28)

    Yeah.

    Katie (1:00:29)

    I feel like it's a negative like twice in Denver at least.

    Sara (1:00:32)

    I feel like the average winter week is like thirties, which is kind of ideal to me. Yeah.

    Katie (1:00:36)

    I agree.

    Sara (1:00:37)

    I can handle thirties easily, but single digits is where it gets me.

    Katie (1:00:43)

    I think we decided to not get a speed pass. But

    Sara (1:00:46)

    I was gonna ask you that.

    Katie (1:00:48)

    but but we maybe decided we're gonna stay here for the winter. And we would be down it's like I feel like it's probably like eighty percent, seventy percent. But we're would be down to do a weekend or y'all ski and we just hike during the day or go to town or b like yeah, whatever the weather is figured out.

    Sara (1:01:08)

    I have decided I want to operate a lot this year. Yeah,

    Katie (1:01:10)

    Okay.

    Sara (1:01:12)

    me being like, I think I don't want to drink that much. You're so

    Katie (1:01:15)

    So funny.

    Sara (1:01:17)

    which is true for right now, but

    Katie (1:01:20)

    You wanna get drunk at least one time before the end of the

    Sara (1:01:22)

    Yeah.

    Katie (1:01:23)

    year. Okay. Then I'll go.

    But then are you driving home? Like I just don't get it logistically.

    Sara (1:01:30)

    No, 'cause you're staying in the town that night. Like I would want to do it on a Saturday stay over Saturday night.

    Katie (1:01:33)

    Yeah yeah yeah I'm

    Okay. Well we're down to Opera. We're down for the weekend. I just don't want to do the drive there and back in one day. No desire.

    Sara (1:01:46)

    Absolutely not.

    Katie (1:01:47)

    And we'll work on wedding stuff while people go skiing. And then yeah, I just don't feel the need to spend a lot of money on that, I would say.

    Sara (1:01:57)

    Yeah, I agree. I wanna book places now so it's cheaper.

    Katie (1:02:01)

    Okay.

    Well, I think we would be down to book, just let us know. But but all this to say, when we go to Florida, the argument was it's gonna be dark after work here. In Florida we can play tennis every single day and

    Sara (1:02:13)

    This is true.

    Katie (1:02:16)

    have it be more enjoyable. And so it'll be a long time. But we'll go to the beach for all, there's hot tub. It'll be fun.

    Sara (1:02:24)

    I think the one one of the positives of having to be in person is the fact that I literally can't stay at home for like four weeks because I think that if I did work remote I would just do that and then I would go pretty crazy.

    Katie (1:02:40)

    Yeah. I'm hope it goes okay. It'll be okay.

    Sara (1:02:46)

    Yeah, you'll have Riley and play tennis.

    Katie (1:02:50)

    Yeah, it'll be fine. I'm just I was thinking about Wow, I had a good thought and I forgot it.

    Sara (1:03:00)

    I wanna start thinking about Christmas gifts.

    Katie (1:03:03)

    What are you gonna do?

    Sara (1:03:04)

    I don't know, but I wanna do something I wanna just get like everyone one thing. I don't wanna do 'cause I always like come to the last minute. Yeah. I order like little things on Etsy, which are all like they're fine, but I'd rather do one thing that I start brainstorming now that they'll really, really like. yeah.

    Katie (1:03:23)

    Have you thought of any people's yet?

    Sara (1:03:25)

    really random because why is PJ's dad the first person that I thought of something But I

    Katie (1:03:31)

    Actually so

    Sara (1:03:33)

    think that we should get him a Blackhawks jersey while we're at the game. that's 'cause

    Katie (1:03:36)

    So cute. Yeah.

    Sara (1:03:38)

    I think I was just thinking like when I'm places for the rest of the year I wanna brainstorm. Yeah. And he loves the Blackhawks, so

    Katie (1:03:45)

    Wait, that's cute. And you can use it from the season tick for the season tickets. That's

    Sara (1:03:49)

    Yeah.

    Katie (1:03:50)

    so smart. Okay, love.

    Sara (1:03:53)

    Other than that, I have zero ideas.

    Katie (1:03:56)

    Well, I'm like right now deep in the trenches of trying to figure out bridesmaid gifts. And I feel like I'm probably gonna end up just telling you today, but I'm gonna try not to. But I there the boxes I'm doing for the asks are like actually so weird. Like the combination of items is just like you're just gonna be like, what? So I'm worried that they're gonna be like So then I just keep getting more stuff because being like this is such a weird.

    Sara (1:04:16)

    This I

    Katie (1:04:18)

    But it's it's all like useful things because I don't wanna give people like junk. So but it's just like

    Like it's like because I'm trying to like practical and give people useful things, it's like this is not screaming bridesmaid at all. Like it's gonna people are gonna use it.

    Sara (1:04:30)

    then I think that's great. I also don't even think that you have to worry about getting I'm

    Katie (1:04:35)

    Okay.

    Sara (1:04:38)

    I personally don't think that like it's like I would do the same thing of like giving a a bridesmaid's thing, but even like the gifts at the bachelorette and like I think it all just gets too much too much pressure on the bride.

    Katie (1:04:54)

    No, and I think that I'm not trying to be like crazy about it. But I also was like there's certain gifts that I feel like would be like genuinely useful. Like for the bachelorette, one thing I'm gonna give people is like a little sunscreen. Like things that you would use at the beach or things like that. Yeah. and like a snack. Like it's not gonna be anything like crazy. I think I'm gonna do like bags like crackers and like sunscreen.

    Sara (1:05:15)

    I mean my favorite bachelorite gift that I've ever gotten was the literal bag that it came in because she just gave us these like quilted like toiletry bags.

    Katie (1:05:26)

    Thanks, love.

    Sara (1:05:27)

    And I was like, That is a great gift and it was all just like little things in there like like what I've used and whatnot. and I think they're personalized for us, but so that's that is a great idea.

    Katie (1:05:41)

    Yeah, I like that. Okay, maybe I should do that.

    Sara (1:05:43)

    Just like little things like that.

    Katie (1:05:45)

    Okay, well

    I got one of the things in the meal today and I'm excited. the other thing I have had and I think that that's a good gift, and I'm getting this one more thing, and the the three things are just completely unrelated. Like like there's no theme. Okay, cool. Wait it's

    Sara (1:05:58)

    I think that's okay. I no I

    Katie (1:06:03)

    like, okay, interesting. But I decided like I'm not the kind of girl that's gonna be like on this day we're wearing this color because I just feel like that's not my brand or my style.

    So everyone doesn't have to match or they can wear whatever they want and we're just gonna hang out.

    Sara (1:06:16)

    Yeah, so what I was thinking about this morning when I texted times

    Katie (1:06:19)

    Yeah, I wanna hear Yeah, yeah.

    Sara (1:06:21)

    I've just been thinking about just a lot about money and

    Katie (1:06:26)

    How much are we going to have after the podcast and yellow?

    Sara (1:06:28)

    Yeah. How many millions we're gonna make from this episode. Yeah. but I think for The Bachelorette, I would want it to be more chill, but I would want like no one to spend any more money than they have to by just getting there.

    Katie (1:06:48)

    So everything in street ones are there? I mean like I just

    Sara (1:06:50)

    I

    what? I don't want to have all these like really expensive events. Yeah, yeah, yeah. but they're gonna

    Katie (1:06:56)

    have

    to pay for like food. You're not paying for all of it, is what I'm trying to say, sorry.

    Sara (1:07:02)

    Yeah, I I was talking to P J about this too, 'cause I would love to pay for the accommodation for everyone. Yeah. If that's feasible at that point.

    But in general I just think it what I've learned is it is like f financially hard for some people to pay to get places.

    Katie (1:07:23)

    yeah, completely. But I'm just saying I don't think that that means that you take the burden on.

    Sara (1:07:28)

    In what this run it was you saying like specific things to wear. Like I don't want everyone to have to go out and buy something. I agree. That's

    Katie (1:07:35)

    kind of part of it and part of it is like I did that before and I just got like cheap stuff that I never wore again and I just like it was wasteful.

    Sara (1:07:39)

    Yeah. 'Cause I do think like themes are fun, but making them like just make whatever you have work, knowing that someone has something that they can wear or bringing options for people or whatnot.

    Katie (1:07:52)

    See I like that. That's like kinda what I'm thinking for my bridesmaid dresses. Like if you already have a green dress, as long as it's not like cotton, like you're probably fine Just wear.

    Sara (1:07:59)

    Not the cotton.

    Katie (1:08:02)

    So okay, I like this. But I do feel like I just worry that you're gonna like pay so much for this. And I'll be like, No, no, no, like we want to help out. Like you we want to celebrate you. No? Maybe.

    Sara (1:08:13)

    I

    don't know, I it's so weird to navigate 'cause I've also been to some where like everything is paid for, which is just like not expected at all.

    Katie (1:08:23)

    No, do I want to do a little lap over here? We

    Sara (1:08:25)

    Yeah.

    Katie (1:08:25)

    have a little bit of sunlight left. Yeah, I think that's like obviously really nice.

    Sara (1:08:30)

    But it's not something I could afford. Like I would love to do that. So I'd wanna meet in the middle somewhere.

    Katie (1:08:36)

    Well, I just texted Joy today and she's Can I help you plan anything for your wedding? And I said, Can you help me think through this? I'm not trying to be that expensive. Obviously if we do it at my parents' place, it's free to stay. But I was like, I would like it if we could like budget and get like a reasonable number and collect it up front. I've heard it's easier if you're like, Hey girls, it's five hundred dollars for the weekend or whatever it is. Yeah. They pay so that no one's like Venmo requesting and like Then

    Sara (1:08:58)

    I like that a lot.

    Katie (1:08:59)

    obviously if there's leftover, you just split it back. Yeah. But I'm not I just said five hundred and po hopefully it'll be less than that.

    Sara (1:09:04)

    I think five hundred's a good number for

    Katie (1:09:06)

    I feel I would like to target like two fifty. Okay,

    Sara (1:09:09)

    That would be crazy.

    Katie (1:09:11)

    but think about it. My parents' place is free. If my mom comes over and drives a boat, that's free. Because they she doesn't have to pay for it.

    Sara (1:09:17)

    It's true.

    Katie (1:09:19)

    Then with two fifty covers all of your food and drink for the weekend. Kinda feels okay.

    Sara (1:09:23)

    Is your mom gonna be at the bachelor at the whole weekend?

    Katie (1:09:26)

    yeah, I'm thinking that she comes on Sunday to drive us on the boat and then I was thinking it'd fun if like people are heading back if my mom stays and my sisters stay and we do like a little like

    Sara (1:09:38)

    that was fine.

    Katie (1:09:38)

    relaxation. And like I would do something to like thank her for letting us stay there and all the things. But I her there, like it'd be fun if she's there for one day. And

    Sara (1:09:47)

    That would really fun.

    Katie (1:09:48)

    then we do a little morning boat ride, people head out in the afternoon and that's the life.

    Sara (1:09:55)

    That's perfect. But

    Katie (1:09:57)

    I

    like two fifty to three hundred would be ideal.

    Sara (1:09:59)

    I mean that yeah, that would be really, really cheap.

    Katie (1:10:02)

    But people have still get to Orlando and then it's cheap.

    Sara (1:10:05)

    Yeah.

    Katie (1:10:05)

    'Cause we would figure out cars because I feel like I know enough people that could drive. And obviously you pay for gas or whatever, but nothing too crazy. So I that was where I was being like. Mm-hmm. So you could think about people and even let's say you give them a number and then you cover the rest. I'm just trying to make you not be like like think you have to spend all your money on this 'cause it's just

    Sara (1:10:27)

    think that if my mom does come, she's gonna be a freak show and try to pay for everything. which would not I would not want that. I'd probably actually get very annoyed.

    Katie (1:10:37)

    Okay. You're so funny.

    Sara (1:10:38)

    But I was also thinking this morning, like what is the difference in dynamics of having her and my aunts and whatnot there? Cause you know, y you're like, like will it be too crazy for them.

    But then I remembered that my aunts at the last family wedding got kicked out of this bar for dancing on the table for

    Katie (1:11:01)

    God.

    Sara (1:11:02)

    like her wedding and then my blood aunt.

    Katie (1:11:07)

    That's impressive. Good for them.

    Sara (1:11:08)

    So like I actually think they would think we're lame.

    Katie (1:11:11)

    I was gonna say, I don't feel like like with all of my heart, I don't feel like we're gonna that crazy. Yeah. Like I think it'll be like quality, awesome, fun, amazing time. Yeah.

    Sara (1:11:20)

    That's

    ideal. I would want to get like wine drunk. Yeah, probably the first night. Maybe a little like winery or cider. Love. The next day.

    Katie (1:11:31)

    Love.

    Sara (1:11:33)

    I don't know. Not that I have to plan these things yet.

    Katie (1:11:37)

    well I'm ready to plan, so I will because this is all recorded, obviously I have my book it'll be transcribed later and I'll

    Sara (1:11:43)

    Give me the bullet.

    Katie (1:11:45)

    No, I'll just take it. You don't have to do anything.

    Sara (1:11:47)

    amazing.

    Katie (1:11:47)

    Yeah, what? What are we talking about? Yeah, that'll be so fun. I like this idea. I think we're heading in the right direction.

    Sara (1:11:54)

    Think so too. Wow. So do you think this has been a successful podcast?

    Katie (1:11:59)

    Okay, I don't know if I think that we okay, well this is what I was thinking. I don't know who's gonna listen. I also think that obviously we'll just edit a little bit, maybe remove some background noise, but we'll see how the audio sounds. I feel like we should have a backlog of episodes before we release. Okay.

    Sara (1:12:14)

    Hey Girl.

    Katie (1:12:14)

    So for the next few weeks, and if we wanna like double up and we should like have a goal. This is why I didn't do this my other podcast, but I decided that my goal for season one was ten episodes and I did ten. Well I decided after I did ten and stopped. but I'll do another season.

    But for this I think we should be like how many episodes do we want to like release? Have a semi-plan for them.

    Sara (1:12:33)

    Yeah.

    Katie (1:12:33)

    And then start putting them out. And then we have to start thinking about this is what I don't know how to be good at, is like Instagram marketing or TikTok marketing or whatever. Yeah. That's the

    Sara (1:12:42)

    Yeah, that's

    Katie (1:12:43)

    scary part. I don't know how to do that.

    Sara (1:12:45)

    Yeah.

    Katie (1:12:46)

    So that's what we have to do. But I think this was successful. I just don't know how we're gonna get the audience, find our people, you know.

    Sara (1:12:54)

    Yeah, maybe people will find us.

    Katie (1:12:56)

    What do you think we should call our people? All of our listeners.

    Sara (1:12:59)

    Well we can't do

    Katie (1:13:03)

    And the Yes. We should promote the podcast. my gosh. We should get go to the thrift store. This is actually a complete thought. Like from the beginning. It's a through line of our whole podcast. We go to the thrift store, we get literal walkers, like we're old people. And then we do a photo shoot with our walkers, because we're the smart, sexy, beautiful walkers. A walker. Yeah. That's actually so good. Okay, so that's how we're gonna do our promotion. Okay.

    Sara (1:13:21)

    And that could be your thumbnail. Yeah, that's perfect. This is great. Okay We'll

    re and then what are the people gonna be called? they are gonna be called I don't

    Katie (1:13:31)

    Walkers. Well, I don't know.

    Sara (1:13:35)

    know, I was it was kind of a joke, but

    Katie (1:13:36)

    Okay well we we can still think about it.

    Sara (1:13:38)

    Okay.

    Katie (1:13:39)

    but we could do a photo shoot with walkers. Yeah, that's kind of funny. Wow. Thank you. I feel like that just on

    Sara (1:13:42)

    I kinda love it. that was a that was a good poll.

    Katie (1:13:48)

    the spot points. Thrift stores, walking,

    Sara (1:13:50)

    Yeah.

    Katie (1:13:51)

    being super smart, strong, sexy, beautiful, Amazon.

    Sara (1:13:53)

    Actually

    what didn't we cover today? How are we g I mean, we do this every week so we're gonna have more content.

    Katie (1:13:59)

    No no. We're we this is just not even that weird. Yeah. okay, that was all. We're signing off.

    Sara (1:14:05)

    Bye.

    Katie (1:14:08)

    Yeah.

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